Comments on: Become a RaceFans Supporter and go ad-free | F1 Fanatic https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/ Formula 1, IndyCar, WEC, Formula E and more independent motorsport coverage Tue, 02 Oct 2018 16:12:38 +0000 hourly 1 By: IanMD https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1012063 Thu, 24 May 2012 15:03:59 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1012063 In reply to Mike.

The ability to recover funds from the seller by way of reversal with no waiting period. Paypal is owned by eBay and is all about protecting the buyer, never the seller; the system has many flaws.

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By: Mike https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1011756 Thu, 24 May 2012 02:46:31 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1011756 In reply to IanMD.

their system is one of the weakest going

Based on…

If you make a claim like that, you need to back it up.

Personally I think paypal is about as safe as you will get.

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By: orrc https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1011684 Wed, 23 May 2012 22:15:01 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1011684 In reply to Keith Collantine.

As I've noticed a number of people recently saying they're simply unaware that blocking ads on this site (or any site) is depriving the owner of revenue, perhaps there's a way to give these people a nudge in the right direction.

I've seen a couple of sites who put a placeholder image *behind* where the adverts normally load, saying "Hey, it looks like you've got an ad blocker on. Please don't / here's a link to donate / explain why ads are important." So if the ads load, fine. But if they don't, the user sees the "please don't block me" message.

Maybe that could work here? Certainly the large advert in the header would be an eye-catching place, and would stand out more than the wee "go ad-free" link at the side.

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By: MarcusAurelius https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1011674 Wed, 23 May 2012 21:12:44 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1011674 Good to see all those positive responses. Many of you think the same about this site as I do. The quality of this site is so good I visit it every day. I just have to read *all* the articles.

I'm still waiting for the yearly subscription although I'm not bothered by the ads anyway.

A question to the other visitors: Is this the first website you give your money to? (it is for me…)

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By: Paulocreed https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1011600 Wed, 23 May 2012 17:20:49 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1011600 I'd also prefer an Annual fee.

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By: Max Thon https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1011579 Wed, 23 May 2012 16:11:41 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1011579 In reply to Keith Collantine.

No need, i already have that ad-free look ;)

BTW: why is the ad-free image not showing “New on F1 Fanatic”, its between “Search F1 Fanatic” and “Active F1 Fanatics” ?

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By: McLarenFanJamm https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1011574 Wed, 23 May 2012 16:02:39 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1011574 Ahhhh, no ads :)

Best site update ever Keith!

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By: gabal https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1011571 Wed, 23 May 2012 15:58:09 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1011571 In reply to Ral.

I don't know which model F1 Fanatic has but for some ads you get money only if the visitor actually clicks on it.

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By: IanMD https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1011556 Wed, 23 May 2012 15:38:38 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1011556 In reply to Oblong_Cheese.

Lack of knowledge there Oblong_Cheese, credit card fraud isn't solely down to "stupid mistakes", many companies still store credit card details in excel format and quite often get exploited when their systems are hacked. Happened to me a few years ago, only used the credit card with a single company and when their system got hacked, my account was taken for thousands (returned by the bank fortunately).

As for using Paypal, yikes, no chance, their system is one of the weakest going! Direct Debit would be a better route for Keith to take.

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By: IDR https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1011552 Wed, 23 May 2012 15:33:31 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1011552 Keith,
Pay it on a monthly basis is a bit annoying, so please, tell us when will be available annual subscription fee.
I'll pay it without any problem, and maybe you should ask the subscriber if he wants ads-free or stay as today.
I have no problem in having the ads you use, as they are not aggressive, and I do not want to devaluate your figures when you negotiate with advertisers.

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By: Alex https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1011546 Wed, 23 May 2012 15:26:22 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1011546 In reply to caci99.

The ads don’t bother me in the slightest but I know what it takes to run web sites with original content. I frequently click on the ads to generate some £ for Keith. He does an excellent job and I am just waiting for the setup of annual subscription to pay for a clean and original F1 content he provides from days to days.

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By: Alex https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1011541 Wed, 23 May 2012 15:12:28 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1011541 In reply to Keith Collantine.

+1
I would not like to pay a 2$ foreign transaction fee (to the bank) for a £1 subscription each month.

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By: Viswanath https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1011517 Wed, 23 May 2012 14:18:51 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1011517 I don't see any ads at present either!

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By: Funkyf1 https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1011514 Wed, 23 May 2012 14:15:32 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1011514 A great idea! I will sign up when your annual payment becomes available.
Just a point in regards to your ad revenue situation, there are no ads on your mobile browser. I generally check F1F on my pc when I get home (I prefer to view the pics ands vids you provide on the big screen), the ads are there but they don't bother me, but the majority of following and commenting I do is via phone/iPad which means Ad-less browsing. This is a large market I believe you are missing out on. If you can incorporate ads into your mobile site, I believe you may begin to reap some benefits of your advertising. The downfall would be a clunky mobile site, but it would encourage regular users to pay the measly fee you are asking for subscription to avoid. Keep up the good work :)

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By: GR https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1011488 Wed, 23 May 2012 13:15:44 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1011488 I'd happily pay more! Signed up just now

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By: GR https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1011485 Wed, 23 May 2012 13:12:46 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1011485 In reply to Ral.

The reality is that he probably gets less than that per person per advert. Tbh I don't know where the concept that online advertising pays big bucks comes from - the reality is pretty grim. If you look at it from the perspective of the advertiser, they would be better off putting their money into mass-media campaigns rather than bespoke websites (in terms of views per £1). Then if you factor in that there's a middle-man coordinating all the advertising who will want a cut, then it really doesn't add up to much…

No idea what size Keith's readership is, but you'd have to have a very very large group to start making money (but then it gets interesting, because the more people you have, the more you can charge!)

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By: AndrewTanner https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1011457 Wed, 23 May 2012 12:23:52 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1011457 Count me in. I'll sign up over the weekend!

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By: Keith Collantine https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1011451 Wed, 23 May 2012 12:11:41 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1011451 In reply to Mads.

Yep.

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By: Mads https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1011448 Wed, 23 May 2012 12:04:52 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1011448 Great addition to the site. £12 a year for all this content? That is peanuts.
Will it really cover the loss of add for a user who visits the site on average once a day for a whole year?

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By: Ral https://www.racefans.net/2012/05/22/f1-fanatic-supporter-adfree-2/#comment-1011437 Wed, 23 May 2012 11:46:55 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=60284#comment-1011437 In reply to Keith Collantine.

@keithcollantine Really? You're not getting a lot per ad served if a daily visitor doesn't work out to £1/month. I'm not saying that's not the case, just that it surprises me.

Like most of the posters here at least, I visit at least once daily. That's 30 days times let's say 4 pages (front page, daily roundup, back to front page and one other article, which, going by my own habits is on the low side) times 3 ads per page makes 360 ads served per month. That's .2777777pence per ad.

Again, I'm not saying you're getting paid more than that. Just that £1/month seems a bit on the low side, considering I didn't count posting comments (another reload) or visiting the forums, or reviewing articles that I have commented on etc. etc.

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